137: Ramdev Dale Borglum on How To Live So You Can Die Without Fear
What if preparing for death was actually the key to living more fully?
In this profound conversation, I sit down with RamDev Dale Borglum, founder of the Living/Dying Project and author of How to Live So You Can Die Without Fear. After spending decades supporting people at the end of life, Dale shares the extraordinary lessons that dying has taught him about love, presence, forgiveness, grief, compassion, and what it truly means to be alive.
Together we explore why so many people reach the end of life wishing they had forgiven more, loved more deeply, and spent less time living from fear. Dale introduces his practical five-stage healing paradigm, explains why embodiment is essential for spiritual practice, and offers beautiful insights into how we can meet life's inevitable endings with greater peace.
Whether you're supporting someone through grief, navigating your own fears, or simply wanting to live with greater purpose, this conversation offers wisdom that has the power to transform how you see both life and death.
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๐About Ramdev Dale Borglum:
RamDev Dale Borglum is the author of How to Live So You Can Die Without Fear and the executive director of the Living/Dying Project. A pioneering figure in the conscious dying movement, he has spent decades helping individuals face death โ and life โ with greater awareness and has collaborated with leaders in the field including Ram Dass, Stephen Levine, and Elisabeth Kรผbler-Ross. Drawing on his background as a mathematician, meditation teacher, lover of God, and devoted practitioner of both Eastern and Western healing traditions, Borglum offers a uniquely practical and accessible map to the healing path.
๐TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 The three forgiveness practices
00:36 Introduction
01:23 How RamDev Dale Borglum entered conscious dying work
05:32 What dying teaches us about living
09:59 Why remembering death changes life
13:14 The five-stage healing paradigm
16:23 Learning to trust life again
20:33 Compassion as a spiritual practice
24:30 What happens after we die?
28:01 Caregiving without trying to fix people
31:54 A story about dying with joy
33:35 The conversation with his father that changed everything
39:47 Preparing families for death
45:35 The regrets people carry into death
48:16 The long dark night of the soul
54:15 Advice for anyone facing difficult times
58:44 The message behind the book
59:11 Working with fear instead of fighting it
Connect With Ramdev Dale Borglum:
๐ Website: http://www.livingdying.com
๐ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@livingdyingproject
๐ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/livingdyingproject
๐ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/LivingDyingProject
๐ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/livingdyingproject/
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